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By Jared Cheek
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Already there is speculation among record critics, commentators and
cognoscenti as to how and to what extent his emergence will influence
tomorrow's tastes and trends. No matter what your age, musical preferences
or sociological point-of-view, it is uncommonly predictable, inevitable,
inescapable: You are about to become involved with Van Dyke
Parks!
These words from a 1968 advertisement for Van Dyke Parks' Song Cycle
LP have turned out to be much truer than Warner Bros. may have realized
nearly forty years ago. Whether you have taken a rewarding plunge into one
of his five solo albums or not, it is likely that anyone who listens to
music has benefited from hearing something bearing his timeless, whimsical
imprint.
Nowadays, most people who hear the name Van Dyke Parks probably
associate him with his collaborations with Brian Wilson in the late 60s, as he provided lyrics for the masterwork SMiLE. However, considered one of
the hardest working men in his craft, the majority of his work has been
behind the scenes as an arranger (first with "The Bare Necessities" from
Disney's The Jungle Book, and currently with Joanna Newsom's forthcoming
sophomore album), producer (Randy Newman, Phil Ochs, Rufus Wainwright, etc.)
and film scorer (Popeye, Oliver Twist, etc.), Parks has worked with everyone
from Tim Buckley to Frank Stallone and has done so throughout his life with
an uncompromising and inspiring love of music in its purest form.
Thirty-eight
years
after his continually underappreciated solo debut, Parks is currently at
work on a new solo album to be released this year. His first since 1989, it
should not be anticipated as a comeback, but rather the long-awaited return
of a gentlemanly comet that has decided to show itself in its colorful
brilliance once again.
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It
was difficult to accept failure as a
part of life. Yet, somehow, I
always knew that the Play's the
Thing, and my reward was in simply
making the best effort I could. In
that, I was secretly happy with what
I brought to American folklore at age
23.
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| Bandoppler
The studio albums that you have released,
lauded by critics, have often been enthusiastically
praised by a few, yet unheard by many. Your audience
size, seeming to be disproportionate to the quality
of your work, might be a disheartening injustice.
Do you think that your career would have taken a
different path regarding what you did in the industry
had Song Cycle or Discover America
been more properly received? Or were the different
paths you took (as arranger, scorer, producer, label
executive, etc.) areas that you wanted to pursue
at the times when you did anyways, even if you had,
say, topped the pop charts in ‘68?
VDP
I'm sure I would have issued more works,
had the ones I offered made sponsorship an easier
affair. I'm very happy as an arranger, however,
it being my favorite musical job. I'm now arranging
for harpist/vocalist, singer/songwriter Joanna Newsom,
on her second CD. She's marvelous, and modest. I've
never had a bigger challenge, or more joy in discovery. Still,
I plan to put out another CD of my own this year.
Songwriting has a magnetic appeal for me, and is
the epic adventure.
Bandoppler
Your
production work, for yourself or otherwise, is often
experimental and unique while remaining aesthetically
pleasant, enjoyable on the first listen as well
as the hundredth. What are some production methods
or artistic ideologies, unconventional or otherwise,
that Van Dyke Parks brings to a piece of music that
the average person may not?
VDP
I
put as much time and effort into each arrangement
as anyone I know. My limited talents don't
allow for any coasting. I sweat bullets, trying
to bring the most companionable sounds to the careless
observer I can. I try to make music that is
durable goods. At the same time, I try not
to tell the observer what to think ... whether to
laugh or cry. This makes for a select audience that
doesn't mind making up its own mind, and simply
enjoys effort in design.
Bandoppler
What
is your favorite meal?
VDP A
good bowl of cold Senegalese soup with a spray of
coconut is a step up, but any kind of peasant food
hits the spot for me. Labor-intensive kitchen-work
makes plain fare elegant, however, and I can whip
up a reasonable stuffed bell-pepper or cabbage leaf---have
you ever tried to envelope a pilau with a cabbage-leaf,
with a visually pleasing result? Peasants know how
to cook.
Bandoppler
It seems as though you find something that
sparks your interest—i.e. Trinidad steel bands,
children’s literature, motion pictures, historical
or current events, etc.—and use that as inspiration
to create something great that may or may not be
commercially marketable at the given time. But have
you ever been part of a project that you were not
very interested in being involved with? How does
this effect your work?
VDP
Nothing is beneath my effort, when music is
in the equation. I've never been disengaged, although
I've come close, in the triviality of film-scoring.
Bandoppler Which
film did you enjoy working with the most?
VDP
Oliver
Twist,
with Richard Dreyfus. He, no Alec Guinness,
and me, no Vaughn Williams. Still, the learning
of idiom, the use of historical themes in character
underscoring, all leads to an experience that's
pure revelation. Oliver
Twist
brought out the Druid marrow in my bones. It
refreshed my faith in all that's English, both pre-&-post-Industrial
Age. Very interestingly, director Tony Bill
simply put his arm around me at the spotting-session
(the con-fab that determines where music stops and
starts) and said: "...Van Dyke,
this picture needs a lot of music." That was
the liberty and responsibility that only a great
director would place on a film composer. I'm
very grateful for it.
Bandoppler
How did the shelving of SMiLE,
at least in its intended form, affect you initially
and in the subsequent years?
VDP
It was difficult to accept failure as a part
of life. Yet, somehow, I always knew that the
Play's the Thing,
and my reward was in simply making the best effort
I could. In that, I was secretly happy with
what I brought to American folklore at age 23.
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Brian
had no opinion about what he would do
to become "counter-culture"
in the 60s. He trusted my instincts. I
suggested we use a thematic approach
to Pilgrims' Progress and Manifest
Destiny. I wanted to take an
optimistic (yet informed) take on American
History, when it was considered passe.
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| Bandoppler
How did you feel about SMiLE
finally being released, in regards to it being partially
your creation? Were you happy with the way it was
released, having been completely redone and not
patched together from the original tapes?
VDP
It really seemed somehow after-the-fact, and
more of a satisfaction in the way it offered redemption
(in the public eye) to Brian Wilson. It was clearly
his victory. I'm happy to say that we still
communicate. He called me both yesterday and
today, to suggest more songwriting.
Bandoppler
Aside from what we may already have heard
about the SMiLE
sessions, could you give us an anecdote that would
paint a picture in our minds of what the experience
was like?
VDP
Brian had no opinion about what he would do
to become "counter-culture" in the 60s.
He trusted my instincts. I suggested we use
a thematic approach to Pilgrims'
Progress
and Manifest
Destiny. I
wanted to take an optimistic (yet informed) take
on American History, when it was considered passe.
Bandoppler
Do you think that your work would be significantly
different if you did not live in California? Do
you feel that location and one’s physical surroundings
translate into a certain musical tone?
VDP
California is my adoptive home. It's an undeniable
presence in all my songwriting. Things might have
turned out differently had I spent my adulthood
in NYC. It may have made me harsh. I am not
harsh.
Bandoppler
What is your favorite book?
VDP
The short story appeals. When I was 12, studying
French, it was "The Diamond Necklace,"
Eugenie Grandet (de Mauppasant). In my adult life,
the master of this form is Kurt Vonnegut. One of
my faves of his is "Hocus Pocus," with
its insight into America's decline as a world-power.
This book supports my theory (vented in my album
Tokyo
Rose)
that there's more to life than mastery of numbers.
Bandoppler
Many younger artists discover your work, absorb
it, and allow it to influence their own. Are there
any new bands that you enjoy?
VDP
I don't listen to much fabricated by the American
middle-class. I avoid well-heeled and boogie perspective. I'm
more into world-beat, with its time-tested rhythms
and higher social calling.
Bandoppler
What are some words of advice that you would
give to young artists today who may be facing Mike
Loves of their own who do not understand them and
their creations?
VDP
Dance as if no one's looking. Wrestle
things out to bring moment to your own sense of
discovery, and make the world a better place. This
is no time for whiners. That includes Mike Love.
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I
want free-reign to compose, without
one hint of progress-of-profit. This
will take a miracle, for at my age—I
turned 63 yesterday—I'm an anomaly
in a society that celebrates Youth.
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| Bandoppler
What is something that frustrates you that
you would change if you had the power to?
VDP
Mendacity in government officials, and a Republican
regime. Eco-consciousness is at the core of my every
political leaning. Anti-intellectualism is part
of our American decline, and not all "Red-States."
To live in a time when Darwin's "theory"
is being questioned is a sad thing. I lived
through McCarthyism, and feel this is a much darker
age. I would change one thing for sure: Religion
should not be taught in public schools. Theology
has a purpose, and that is to teach Ethics. Science
is to be taught that can help us implement our Ethical
motives.
Bandoppler
Have you ever written with motives besides
aesthetic enjoyment? How do you feel about the use
of music as a medium for an individual’s personal,
political, or religious agenda?
VDP
I've always written out of a sense of urgency,
and I sense that's felt. I can only hope it'll
bring aesthetic enjoyment for others. I think all's
fair in the motives that drive a musician. After
all, it's only music!
Bandoppler
Was working with Harry Nilsson ever an arduous
task or was it mostly a smooth process? Did
his personality and approach to creating songs mingle
well with yours?
VDP
Harry was too close a personal friend for
me to think of any of it as "arduous."
You'll hear what I think of Harry in the documentary
soon to appear on HBO. He's been so totally underappreciated. I
visited his grave last month, and poured a glass
of fine vodka on his headstone. The Earth moved.
Bandoppler
Much of your work is rather jovial and, at
times, playful, even if the lyrical content is of
a darker nature. Is this a reflection of your personality? Would
you consider yourself to be an optimistic gentleman?
VDP
All optimism should be informed. It must serve
a dual purpose. Still, I emphasize consolation.
One never knows what fragility there may be in the
numbers that attend a performance.
Bandoppler
What is your favorite album?
VDP
For the last five years or so, it's been Paolo
Conte's Reveries,
on Nonesuch. He da man.
Bandoppler
What would you like to be remembered as?
VDP
I don't want to be remembered. I want to be
welcomed, and welcomed back. I want to find
relevance while I'm here to exploit it. Being Old
& In the Way is no fun, but it beats being
Old & Out of the Way, I trow.
Bandoppler
What is one thing that you would still like
to accomplish, musically or otherwise?
VDP
I want free-reign to compose, without one
hint of progress-of-profit. This will take a miracle,
for at my age—I turned 63 yesterday—I'm an anomaly
in a society that celebrates Youth. I have
no idea what the future holds (I don't feel quite
so "pre-destined" as your average Presbyterian),
but I walk into each project with an open mind,
and the desire to serve.
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